Monday, February 1, 2010

not much happening...

Since returning from Grand Rapids I have nothing noteworthy to report. Fishing has been very tough for me the last four or five outings, trying some new spots in the TC metro area, with only a few embarassingly small panfish.

Coming up: I am looking forward to a two day panfish trip to Ottertail county at the end of February, and then there is the late ice period in March when the bite should pick up. Between now and then I'll probably spend most of my time on local lakes trying to locate a decent bite.


Rick Lannoye said...

Sorry, what Jesus actually said is to be done about all of us "criminals on the loose" was NOT for God to torture billions of people for all eternity!

The only way you can believe in Hell is to reject EVERYTHING that he actually did say, and exemplify in his actions, about God's real nature.

I've actually written an entire book on this topic--Hell? No! Why You Can Be Certain There's No Such Place As Hell, (for anyone interested, you can get a free ecopy of Did Jesus Believe in Hell?, one of the most compelling chapters in my book at, but if I may, let me share one of the many points I make in it to explain why.

If one is willing to look, there's substantial evidence contained in the gospels to show that Jesus opposed the idea of Hell. For example, in Luke 9:51-56, is a story about his great disappointment with his disciples when they actually suggested imploring God to rain FIRE on a village just because they had rejected him. His response: "You don't know what spirit is inspiring this kind of talk!" Presumably, it was NOT the Holy Spirit. He went on, trying to explain how he had come to save, heal and relieve suffering, not be the CAUSE of it.

So it only stands to reason that this same Jesus, who was appalled at the very idea of burning a few people, for a few horrific minutes until they were dead, could never, ever burn BILLIONS of people for an ETERNITY!

True, there are a few statements that made their way into the copies of copies of copies of the gospel texts which place “Hell” on Jesus’ lips, but these adulterations came along many decades after his death, most likely due to the Church filling up with Greeks who imported their belief in Hades with them when they converted.

Bear in mind that the historical Protestant doctrine of the inspiration of the Scriptures applies only to the original autographs, not the copies. But sadly, the interpolations that made their way into those copies have provided a convenient excuse for a lot of people to get around following Jesus’ real message.

Casey Nygren said...


Jesus taught more on judgment and Hell than any other subject. There is a massive volume of material from the very lips of Jesus to warn people that Hell is a real place. One does not have to be theologically astute to understand Jesus' teaching. I have compiled an impressive body of Scriptures on Jesus' teaching on the subject, so please don't tell me Hell isn't a real place when the Lord Jesus has clearly taught that it is. It is actually laughable that anyone would NOT believe that Jesus taught that Hell is a real place.

Rick, please think about what you are teaching others. If you do not believe in Hell despite Jesus' clear teaching, and you are teaching others that Hell is not real, then you are teaching a lie.

The truth is, people don't like the God revealed in Scripture. They don't like a God who can cast sinners into Hell for breaking His laws. God's real nature revealed in Scripture is so repulsive to sinful man that we invent our own god, one that is quite tame and tolerant of crime. A god who is all love and grace without an ounce of holiness, wrath, or justice. Making up your own god is a violation of Commandment #1. The true God is Holy. He has the right to command we live our lives a certain way. God cannot tolerate the tiniest of sins without violating His perfect justice. Hell is God's prison for locking up lawbreakers.